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Dovid Nissan Bressman
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In the word Uvichal, the ו is long. It also starts a little lower than it should be which makes it trickier. Is the ו around 4 kolmosim long?
Instinctively I would say shailat tinok at most as a) the vav does start a bit low as you said, b) compared with this ksav it doesn't look much longer than his other vavim and compared with his אותיות פשוטות (kaf really but this is assuming his nunim are similar length) there is a great difference in length.
Since it is on the boundry between vav and nun, this means to my sight it is not definitly a nun, it looks more like a vav, it would be a shaylas tinok. And since it is obvious that a tinok will read it vav - it is kosher. Dovid, this is according to my sight. If your sight agrees with the above you can machshir, if you dont agree (that means the mezuza before your eyes, the letter seems to look more a nun than a vav) - ask a tinok.
it is important to note the difference between vov and zein.mishna brura in letter zein writes not to make regel longer than 2 kulmusim,however in letter vov he writes not to make it "aruch miday". when viewing old ktavim i always found "very"long vavs,i met with rav samson from london who pointed out the alpha baisawho explains why vavin should be written long.see page 264 in the new print
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
Instinctively I would say shailat tinok at most as a) the vav does start a bit low as you said, b) compared with this ksav it doesn't look much longer than his other vavim and compared with his אותיות פשוטות (kaf really but this is assuming his nunim are similar length) there is a great difference in length.
ReplyDeleteKeen to hear R' Moshe's thoughts?
Since it is on the boundry between vav and nun, this means to my sight it is not definitly a nun, it looks more like a vav, it would be a shaylas tinok.
ReplyDeleteAnd since it is obvious that a tinok will read it vav - it is kosher.
Dovid, this is according to my sight. If your sight agrees with the above you can machshir, if you dont agree (that means the mezuza before your eyes, the letter seems to look more a nun than a vav) - ask a tinok.
it is important to note the difference between vov and zein.mishna brura in letter zein writes not to make regel longer than 2 kulmusim,however in letter vov he writes not to make it "aruch miday".
ReplyDeletewhen viewing old ktavim i always found "very"long vavs,i met with rav samson from london who pointed out the alpha baisawho explains why vavin should be written long.see page 264 in the new print