Shaylas Tinok – samech/mem stuma
In the word ואספת
the samech is square on the right side, and looks like a [final] mem. Is this a
shaylas tinok? Another problem is - if I
show the whole word to a tinok, he might decide it’s a samech, because he knows
that a final mem will never occur in the middle of the word, and not because
the tzura is more a samech in his eyes. Or maybe I should cover the rest of the
word, and show the tinok only the samech.
[this same question would arise for example,
in a case of a zayin a bit longer than its shiyur standing in the middle of a
word]
This samech - on the right side looks like mem
stuma, and on the left side looks like a samech. The Mikdash M'at (mem stuma)
quotes Shut Darcei Noam that in this case a tinok is not acceptable to resolve
the issue, since we are in doubt as to which side (right or left) of the letter
he emphasizes, so therefore this shape should be pasul both for a samech or a mem
(since we have a doubt that cannot be solved). But all acharonim disagree (see
Biur Hasofer p. 79, ד"ה בשלש) and hold that the tinok
is absolutly capable of deciding the total tzura of the letter, in this case as
any other letter in doubt.
The second issue is more complicated, can we
show the whole word as it is, or must we hide the continuation, since the
letter in question is in the middle, this might be a clue to the tinok in
deciding it’s a samech, not a mem.
The Gidule Hekdesh (Klalim 14:6) writes
clearly that the rest of the word must be covered, so the tinok will not be
influenced by external reasons, and decide only on the basis of the tzura he
sees.
Do other Acharonim agree? I would assume not, although not so easy to
prove.
The BY writes on dalet - that one should be
careful not to lengthen the foot lest it resemble a caf pshuta, zayin - should
be careful not to lengthen it lest it resemble a nun pshuta, mem stuma square -
lest it resemble a samech. The acharonim all understand his statements, so, if
in a case of doubt a tinok should be called to decide (see SA Harav, Mishnat Sofrim,
Keset, Kol Yaacov, on those letters). It seems the same hallacha should be on a
samech that is in doubt it may be a mem, that a tinok should decide.
None of those acharonim cautioned that the
doubt in regard to a final letter, may cause a problem if they [dalet or zayin]
are in the middle of a word, that a tinok could not be reliable (or that a
special measure – covering in this case the rest of the word is needed).
But see Lishkat Hasofer 7:3 quoting Bnei Yona
-
The words should be separated each from
another, l'chatchila at least a yuds [ois ketana] measure, b'dieved if the
words are close to each other, a tinok shall decide. Bnei Yona writes that if
the ending letter of the first word is a final letter, still a tinok is
reliable, although this letter will make his decision easier (accepting even less
space between the words). The Lishka explains that although he is relying on
the final letter and not on the spacing, in this case it is acceptable,
because not the measure of the space is important but a clear definition that
differentiates between the words, either by correct spacing or the sign of a
final letter.
It seems (that the Lishka accepts the Gidule
Hekdesh mentioned) that in regard to a question on the tzuras haois, the place
of a letter resembling a final letter would be problematic.
So it is worth to be machmir, and cover the
other letters to allow the tinok a objective idea on the basis of the tzuras
haois by itself.
The logic to the opinion of Gidule Hekdesh –
Although we don’t have to cover the other
letters in general allowing the tinok to be influenced by the size and shape of
other letters, the case of a final letter is different.
The tinok must be 'lo chacham', IE he
doesn’t know how to read (understand the text), but he may asses the letter in
question from the shape and size of the other letters around.
But in this case, even a regular tinok [shown
the whole word] would be a 'chacham' on this subject, assesing
the samech not because of its form (tzuras ha'ois) but because of an
external factor, which is exactly like a tinok chacham who reads the complete
word, and answers/reads the letter not only because of its form [objective
judgement seeing the tzura only], but because he is trying [subjective] to fit the
letter into the context and meaning of the word or sentence.
Another example for this problem, may be the MB 32:132 - a lamed entering the challal of a dalet, causing a question maybe its a hai, should be given to a shaylas tinok, covering the bottom line [the body of the lamed].
Another example for this problem, may be the MB 32:132 - a lamed entering the challal of a dalet, causing a question maybe its a hai, should be given to a shaylas tinok, covering the bottom line [the body of the lamed].
The samech in todays siddur is probably a kosher mem for stam (its not round. its square on one side and slight square angle on the other).
ReplyDeleteI have found this confuses children in shaalos tinuk issues for mem stumah / samech shailos
A tinok wouldnt help on zayin anyway since tinok will read a kosher final nun a zayin.
ReplyDeletethe rabanim in usa put draw a line across the moshav of most letters on the line and if the foot of the zayin is more a half of a kulmus they call it "safek psul"and are not machshir
ive noticed that people are becoming overly machmir about a zayin that has even a hint of extra length. Why not just call half a kulmus over a shailas tinuk (and cover after the zayin as r moshe suggests)? why passel it so easily without s tinok?
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