Dio and Klaf

By Yehoshua -
L'maseh what is dio made from now a days and how.
(If there are several types, please almost mention.)

As well from what type of animal is klaf made from (if different types also please mention.)

If thing are exactly how they are spelled out in Shulchan Aruch then also fair to say that however for the dio I need an explanation of what Shulchan Aruch is referring to!

Thanks to the olam in advanced.

Comments

  1. Beis HastamJanuary 9, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    there are two types of ink
    carbon ink:was used in time of gemara and early rishonim blackness comes from burnt-wood shemen zayis etc it can be mixed with many adhesives as honey gum arabic etc.we all recall the gemara "kol hashmanim yafim lidyo veshemen zayis min hamuvchar" problem with this ink is if it is not done properly it smudges and erases easily.


    dio afatzim- the Greeks found that mixing tanic acid (mei afatzim)(found in gall nuts) with sulfite(metal-kankantom)we get a black color. the ingredients can be cooked in water or dissolved in vinegar-to get the ink to be the correct thickness and consistency gum arabic(guma)is added.

    Dio lanetzach makes carbon ink all others are dio afatzim.
    http://dio-lanetzach.blogspot.com/

    ReplyDelete

Post a Comment

Popular posts from this blog

Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher

By -
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always  מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך  . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Read more

Question to Yosef Chaim B

By -
Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום  type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן  that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that  דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן.  Nor are we interested in those who said to use  עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the  עפצים וקנקנתום  type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is  דיו עשן  of good quality that does not ...
Read more