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same as vav with fat head is considered yud rabasi we cans say this is fay zeira. however since at first glance you recognize as a yud maybe viewing from close does not count although its shaped as fay.
R' Shammai is unfortunately away now until next Thursday (won't be able to speak then until Friday/Shabbos/Sunday ... depending on how things work out.) I will for sure bring him the shailo at some point.
I asked R' Shammai. He said the letters before should be covered and the Yud itself should be shown to a tinnok. He pointed out that the Nun is also questionable (before noticing the Yud he thought that's what I was coming to ask.) However he said the Nun is kosher without a shailos tinnok.
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
I know that there are those choshesh with this type of yud and I have seen cases that were possul
ReplyDeletesame as vav with fat head is considered yud rabasi we cans say this is fay zeira. however since at first glance you recognize as a yud maybe viewing from close does not count although its shaped as fay.
ReplyDeletethere is merit to both arguements, however more likely the psak is it's a shaylas tinok. yeshoshua, what does Rav Shammai Gross say?
ReplyDeleteI think if you showed it to a tinuk he would read it as a yud unless he sees it through a microscope
I have gotten shailos which possibly would be taken as a yud however, were considered posul since they were called a chuf katana.
ReplyDeleteIs there a thumb of rule to define when it can be shailos tinok and when it is posul through a Rav?
R' Shammai is unfortunately away now until next Thursday (won't be able to speak then until Friday/Shabbos/Sunday ... depending on how things work out.) I will for sure bring him the shailo at some point.
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I asked R' Shammai. He said the letters before should be covered and the Yud itself should be shown to a tinnok. He pointed out that the Nun is also questionable (before noticing the Yud he thought that's what I was coming to ask.) However he said the Nun is kosher without a shailos tinnok.
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