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Question to Yosef Chaim B
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Zvi
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Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
Alberto -
ReplyDeleteYou incorrectly described this as a teshuva. It is not. It is a peirush on a likut from Rav Ovadya by Rav Ovadia's son.
Also - did you actually read this?
He quotes an array of Sheelos UTeshuvos from both sides debating whether or not the paint (or the oil used in preparing the retzuos) must be min hamutar bficha. Some hold that it must be mutar b'ficha, but then explain why paint specific cases (ie. oil from a tamei fish) are mutar (i.e. the tamei ingredient is botel, etc). Others hold mutar b'ficha only applies to items from which you can tell their origin by looking at them (ie. the Shoel UMaishiv).
Furthermore- he says the same thing that I have been writing and that Rav Friedlander confirmed - milsa yeseira, items not intrinsic to the meleches shomayim, do not need to be mutar b'ficha. This is why some inks with treif ingredients may be mutar b'dieved or m'ikkar hadin mutar.
This section doesn't contribute to the discussion one way or the other.