Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
Most kelafim are processed al tnay as you explained.
ReplyDeleteBut you can order klaf "shlo al tnay" that means klaf that was made specificly lshem kedushas one item only.
To add to what R. Moshe said: Some klaf-makers make their klaf "leshem kedushas Sefer Torah" without a tenai and it may be used for tefilin, mezuzos, megilos, or nevi'im; but it can not be used for a davar chol.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what the halacha would be with regard to "pitom haketores" or "the menora", but I assume they are considered a davar chol as far as the kedusha of the klaf is concerned.
Would a pitum k'toret be considered entirely a davar chol given it has words of Torah and Hashem's name in? Similarly the menorah words are from Tehillim and a sefer Tehillim has kedushah. Now technically one isn't supposed to write out parts of books/p'sukim etc, but pitum ha'k'toret on k'laf is supported by the rabbonim as a great segulah for parnassah, but what would be the halachic support for them in the first place?
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