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Klaff Tanning question:
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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I received this question via email. I am not really a klaf expert, I was wondering if anyone could answer this question: Dear Rabbi Gutnick, I am writing to you because a good friend of mine has put the idea into my head that the klaf in my tefillin were not really tanned and therefore are not kosher. He referred me to Megilla 19a re diftera. From the research that I have done so far, it seems that the klaf that is used today is tanned only with a lime wash. On all of the tanning websites I’ve seen so far, they say that the lime doesn’t accomplish tanning but only the removal of the hair and some other pre-tanning effects. Would you be able to explain to me or refer me to a website that explains how the tanning process that is used today takes the hide out of the category of diftera? Thank you very much.
The forum is back online...for reference and research purposes.
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
the second beis of bevaisecha - no!
ReplyDeleteenlarge for better view.
Reb moshe Please give us a clear understanding according to chabad what part of the beis must be square.Is it the point on bottom or the outward tzura or does it need a real eikev
ReplyDeletethe beis of bechol is also very problematic.
ReplyDeleteaccording to this csav the basic feature that makes a beis, is the ribua of the akev, that means the akev has to be bolet in a way that clearly indicates that the bottom part of the beis is extended in a square shape from the moshav past the line coming down from the gag.
true that if the bottom tip is round but the akev in clalus is clearly extending and giving a square tzura to the letter it is kosher.
in these beisim [that Heshy posted] the akev is clearly round from the top till bottom, indicating a gav [like the gav of the caf] not an akev at all.
I am afarid that these 2 beisim noted are pasul as being a caf type letter, and lo moil sheilas tinok clal - כי עינינו רואות שאין להם צורת בי"ת כלל
Beis Hastam if something isn't clear - please note, I will try to explain better.
Sorry to be so harsh, but it is schorah like this that gives Alter rebbe ksav a bad name. Chabad consumers looking to buy cheap should better buy Arizal. Only sell Alter Rebbe if it is high quality and written by a mumcheh.
ReplyDeleteOther problematic letters that are especially common in cheap Alter Rebbe ksav other than the round bais are in my opinion 1)shinim that are not chad krah and have a moshav that is semi flat 2)nunim where the gug is wider than the moshav, 3) chof with square on bottom right, 4) lamed with small neck 5) vovin and yudin without proper rosh (the rosh is half swallowed into the regel and only has a shpitz (ie kotz R'T giving it shape), and sometimes 6) Zayin with regel that has blita making it possibly a nun kfufah. Also 7) samech with square bottom on left side is a deviation and can sometimes passel the ois.
ReplyDeleteAlso I don't understand these sofrim who write Alter rebbe with these huge bedek chaya tagin, where is the kabollah for that? We don't see it on any of the ksavin such as Reb Ruvain or the megillah it can sometimes be a shinuy tzurah.