Reish with dot

By Yehoshua -
Here is a great example of a Reish that has a dot in it that turned into a Hei. This shailo came to the Beis Horah today by R' Shammai and I Baruch HaShem was able to get it from the Sofer afterwards.

R' Shammai said it's pasul.

"ובשעריך"




Comments

  1. moshe weinerJune 26, 2012 at 6:30 AM

    I would say shaylas tinok !

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  2. YehoshuaJune 26, 2012 at 7:04 AM

    I've seen him go many ways on these types of shailos...I was glad I was able to get this to share.

    He seems to be more makil when it's an ois going into the letter, not like when you have a small dot like this by itself...

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  3. AnonymousJune 26, 2012 at 7:12 AM

    In סימן לב סעיף טו of Shulchan Aruch only the רא"ש holds a כל שהוא to מכשיר the tzurah of a ה whereas the Rama brings that sh'ar poskim hold it requires a מלא אות קטנה for it to look like a Hey.
    From this statement by the Rama it would seem to me you have what to rely on to machshir this klaf even without sha'ailat tinok.

    Let us know what the psak is (and of course the reason for it)

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  4. moshe weinerJune 26, 2012 at 7:28 AM

    נראה לי שמותר לשאול תינוק ואם יקראנה רי"ש מותר למחוק הטיפה והרי"ש כשרה
    טעמי, שאין בנקודה הזו שיעור ירך שמאל של ה"א גם לפי שיטות הרא"ש והמחבר סי' לב סעי' טו, ועוד שאינו עומד במקום הירך מצד שמאל, אלא באמצע האות [עי' שוע"ר סי' לו אות ה] ולכן אם תינוק קוראה רי"ש אין זו ה"א, והיא כשרה
    ראה ילקוט הסופר [משנת הסופר עמוד מה] נפלה טיפת דיו קטנה

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  5. Rabbi Eli GutnickJune 26, 2012 at 7:29 AM

    what is rav shammai's opinion on pencil markings that go inside a chalal af a reish, daled or chof pshutah?

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  6. YehoshuaJune 26, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    When we spoke about this once he said it depends how dark it is. If it's light then no problem. If it's dark then already what to talk about and each case would be judged on it's on.

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