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Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher
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Zvi
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We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Question to Yosef Chaim B
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Zvi
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Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
shaylas tinok.
ReplyDeleteI think the mem of hayom also should be asked, it is to roundish for a mem - although probably a tinok will read it mem.
How should one do shailos tinok for the zayin? Covering the hei after it?
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DeleteI used to buy this parsha for pshutim mehudarim but i stopped because it had too many problems and needed too much work
ReplyDeletea tinok can not be asked nowadys since he will read a real nun sofit a zayin. try it make a nun sofit with the regl 3 kulmusim as required and ask a tinok he will read zayin.rabbi mh wosner and reb mordechai friedlander agree to the following
ReplyDeletePlace a straight sheet of paper across the line-aligning it with the moshavim of most letters,if the zayin sticks out more than a half a kulmus it is posul if it sticks out less than a third of a kulmus it is kosher. more than a third and less than a half -sofek psul
see rabbi greenfelds blog
http://theworldofstam.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-12-18T00:25:00-08:00&max-results=7&start=7&by-date=false
ya, I remember this argument a time ago, in one of the early blogs.
DeleteDoes rav friedlander agree to this too? I know one or two poskim in america are very machmir about about a slightly long zayin but most poskim in Israel still go with a shaylos tinuk
ReplyDeletefurthermore how do you judge the bottom of the letters, particularly when its uneven like this ksav. if you look closely, the alef from asher goes down even lower than the zayin....
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