Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
Shulchan Aruch HaRav 32:1 says that the Kedusha of the Shel Rosh is greater than that of the Shel Yad and therefore al pi kabala you should write the shel rosh first.
ReplyDeleteI mean to say in the actual parshiyos, "Shema, etc" (all 4). Not between Shel Yad and Shel Rosh.
ReplyDeleteLechora the parsha with the most sheimos would have the most kedusha. This is the reason that tefillin have more kedusha than mezuzah for example.
ReplyDeleteOne nafka mina would be - when doing a bedikah and reusing the matleisim, should you be makpid to use each matlis for the same parsha it came from.
ReplyDeleteI beleive its the kamos which is koveiah Kedusha Chamurah, not the amount of sheimos.
(By the way, R' Aaron - is it the Shulchan Aruch HaRav that is mechadish that the Kedusha of the Shel Rosh is greater than that of the Shel Yad?)
It's From the Ari Hakadosh
DeleteI was being sarcastic. Its a gemorah in Menochos 34:, Rambam 3:17, Shulchan Aruch 32:1, etc. etc.
Deletewhat the Ariz"l says is to "write" the shel rosh first, because of kedusha chamurah.
Correct, writing the Rosh first is from Ari Z"L because it has a higher level of kedusha, I thought that's what you were talking about here based on Aron's first comment (ie. i'ts not SA HArav who is mechadesh to write first due to higher kedusha)
DeleteAccording to the Ariza”l one should write the parshios shel rosh, insert them in the bayis, close the bayis, paint it black etc., and only afer the shel rosh is complete, write the parshios shel yad. I don’t know of anyone that does it that way.
DeleteIf only the parshios are written, without inserting them into the battim it may be better (even according to the Ariza”l) to write the shel rosh first. It’s the shin on the bayis shel rosh that makes it kedusha chamurah. Therefore if you aren’t doing the whole process, the parshios shel rosh aren’t as of yet a higher level of kedusha than the parshios shel yad. If anything the parshios shel yad are of a greater kedusha at this stage, since all four parshios are on one klaf, and the shel rosh is four separate klafs.
Yes, the above is correct according to the Arizal. However, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter which is done first as the shel yad and shel rosh are two completely different and independent mitzvot. To try and ascribe greater kedusha to an unfinished religious object seems to be inappropriate at this stage, particularly since the eventual kedusha is established at the first moment of wearing of the particular tefilah for the sake of the mitzvah.
DeleteYes, the above is correct according to the Arizal. However, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter which is done first as the shel yad and shel rosh are two completely different and independent mitzvot. To try and ascribe greater kedusha to an unfinished religious object seems to be inappropriate at this stage, particularly since the eventual kedusha is established at the first moment of wearing of the particular tefilah for the sake of the mitzvah.
DeleteI have seen brought down (I can't remember the mekor offhand- maybe Kol Yaakov?) that the matleisim should be used for the parsha it came from. However, it seems we are not makpid on this, but there is no reason to purposely not use them for the same parsha. Certainly if they get mixed up by accident they can be reused with any parsha.
ReplyDeleteI was taught to be makpid about this although I never saw the makor. If you could please post it I would appreciate this
DeleteKol Yakov 32:204* Ol Derech Keresh shezacha bitzafon yinaten tamid betzafon.
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