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245 - beraishis and shemos are more squashed, but more baalei korah are used to this layout
ReplyDelete248 - less baalei korah like this but three extra amudim reduce the more compacted look of beraishis and shemos, the sefer looks nicer too
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ReplyDeleteI would offer the same haaros with the note/clarification that good, experienced baalei korim have no problem with the 248.
ReplyDeleteLess experienced "hobbyist" baalei korim don't like it because it doesn't match the tikkun they prepared out of, which isn't a very good complaint when you consider that very few pre-Davidovitch sifrei torah match today's Tikkun Korim anyway.
Well, its more accurrate to say that: very few of today's tikkun korim match pre-Davidovitch sifrei torah.
Many balei korim (including my self)use the Feldheim Simanim Tikun. Which of the Sifrei Torah layouts matches the Feldheim Simanim Tikkun?
ReplyDeletethe 245 layout match the tikun simanim, and its the one most ba'alei kriah use/like.
ReplyDeleteAs mentioned, the 248 layout is easier to write and looks nicer, even if it is less common at the present time. I would add that if you want to use the 248 tikun, you should make sure to mention that in the contract to avoid any issues down the road. Something like, "The Sofer will write the Sefer Torah according to the 248 column tikun of Rav Yaakov Chenagel”.
ReplyDeleteSince we are so used to the 245 column tikun, when we calculate what to charge the customer and what to pay the sofer, we automatically think of 245 columns multiplied by X and 62 yerios of klaf. Take into account an additional yeria for 248. Also, do we pay the sofer for 3 more amudim, particularly if he requests to write 248 and you and the client don't care either way? Therefore, first work out which tikkun will be used and if it will be 248 work out with the sofer what, if anything he'll be paid for the 3 additional amudim and who will pay for the extra yeria. Once that's worked out you can work out the price for the client.
ReplyDeleteIf the sofer wants to write 248 after a per amud (writing only) price was agreed upon (and a price given to the client) then ask ask a shailah.
Excuse my ignorance, but who was Davidovich?
ReplyDeleteIs, not was. R' menachem Davidovitch sh' is a Toldos Ahron Chassid who setup the post war way of writing, including the tikkun
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