negiya
Tinok read as mem and zayin without hesitating. tinok is familliar with ches of stam
How about the Bais of Uleovdo?
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After the tinok recognized the letters - they are such, and you may scrape the ngiya.
ReplyDeleteAlthough here it is simple, this indeed [in other cases] is sometimes complicated.
It could also be read as kaf touching chet. So which one do we go by?
ReplyDeleteAlthough it could possibly be read as a Khaf touching a Chet, the tinok read MEM-ZAYIN so that is what we go by.
DeleteAccording to reb moshe: the tinok
DeleteWhy don't we say that since the negiot are the same size and thickness and it could just as easily be a kaf-Chet that a tinok doesn't help because another tinok could just as easily read kaf-Chet? Ie like a mem stuma with one rounded corner and one square corner?
ReplyDeleteWhen looking at it in real life, the thickness of the connecting line of the mem is substantially thicker than the negiya
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