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How do you do "aseres benei Haman" in a 7 line megila?
ReplyDeleteAre you sure you don't mean Mezuzah? There is a Yerushalayim tradition of a 7 line mezuzah. You couldn't do aseret b'ney Haman in 7 lines as R. Katz says.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure how it's done. So I guess not then.
ReplyDeleteSomeone wants to order a very small megillah, on 4cm tall klaf , but the writing shouldnt be too small, so the less lines the better. Any suggestions? If 11 lines is the smallest, then it will be extremely small writing...
Al Pi Halacha it should not be written in 7 lines. Stick to 11.
ReplyDeletewhats the makor?
DeleteAl Pi Halacha it should not be written in 7 lines. Stick to 11.
ReplyDeleteTo clarify - not technically assur to write in 7, but doing so involves some terribly complicated problems. I would avoid it.
Deleteother than aseres benai homon, what other problems? and do you see any reason why aseres benai homon could not be written smaller?
DeleteI don't see why you can't write the whole megillah in 7 lines, with the exception of the aseres benei Haman, which will be on 11 lines.
ReplyDeleteThe entire reason for doing the megillah in 11 lines is so that the aseres benei Haman won't be bigger than the rest of the letters of the megillah, since there is no mesorah for the letters to be bigger. Nevertheless, Klal Yisroel has for the most part not accepted this reason, and continues to write the aseres benei Haman larger. (There are several reasons for this, the chief one being that it would seem that the letter size would be as compared to the column, not as compared to the rest of the megillah, in which case the letters are the appropriate size within their own column.)
I don't see why writing them smaller would be any different than writing them larger, unless one wants to say that even though there's no source for them being larger, it has nevertheless become a minhag.
As for the clarity, it's hard to write an entire megillah in really small letters sharply, but it shouldn't be hard to write just a few words really sharply in small letters.
As for a tikkun, if you can't find one, someone who knows layout/publishing software should be able to design a custom tikkun.
ReplyDeleteMy Likkut sifrei stam has tikkunim for a 14 line megilla. You could always cut it in half. Must it be Hamelech?
ReplyDeleteNo, it does not need to be hamelech. I would consider that option of using the 14 line tikun cut in half to make it 7 lines per omud assuming that:
Delete1) It's ok to make the bnai homon in slightly smaller writing than the rest of the megillah - hence fitting them all onto one omud
2) Rav Bloomenstiel's makor / reasoning for not writing 7 lines is indeed such that it's problematic
You may also want to check with your own rav or the client's. There are still some people who don't write the aseres bnei haman on a separate amud.
DeleteChabad is the only megillos i sell today where that is that is the case
DeleteTemanim sometimes do as well, or at least I've seen a temani tikkun for it.
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