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They are patur, they are decorative only and not doorposts.
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DeleteThank you, but it strikes me as odd though for it possible a room should have no door/entrance way?
Deletein this case it seems patur however often the posts are set in a way that they resemble three enterances and then all need mezuzos.
ReplyDeleteThere is not Tzurat Hapetach here. There are two parallel walls with a place where the ceiling comes down. The columns are only there to hold up the ceiling not the create a doorway.
ReplyDeleteIt seems quite clear to me from this picture that had the builders been able to they would have preferred not to have these columns at all but they were necessary for structural reasons, not to divide the rooms.
I agree that this should be patur.
I was thinking about this a bit more. Let's say there would not be the two columns in the middle only the one on the right. We would probably put a Mezuzah. Assuming that is so, we should probably still put one at least there and disregard the other two columns which are only to hold up the ceiling.
ReplyDeleteR. Moshe, what do you think?
The one on the right is also only for structural reasons. It isn't a tzuras hapesach at all.
DeleteBut there is a wall 10 tefachim high on the right which makes gud asik and so perhaps the column is considered like it is the end of a solid wall. This is together with the ceiling descending which is considered like a mashkof.
DeleteAaron, look at the whole picture, it is obvious that the right column isn't a doorpost, but part of the decorative/structural build of this divider.
DeleteEven if considered an end of the right wall, still there is no doorpost from the right [since this column doesn't enclose any part of the petach] and definitly not from the left side.
Therefore this whole opening is patur.