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Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
you can fix it, by adding dyo to round the corner.
ReplyDeleteIf it's a kosher Bais, then "fixing" it by adding is Shelo Kesidran. If it's not, it needs no fixing. Adding D'yo for "just in case" obscures the Shaila permanently. Of course, if this is a Sefer Torah, I agree that it should be made prettier.
ReplyDeleteIt is a kosher caf, but I think it is a mitzva that the caf lechatchila should be correctly rounded at the bottom corner.
DeleteNot sure what you mean. "Kosher caf" means it is "correctly rounded". The caf of HaKenaani is similarly, if not as extensively, imperfect. The Bais in Bechazak is, I think, more serious. Although it has the top right correctly squared, which is the Ikkar, there is no real Ekev; it's a real, round caf bottom.
ReplyDeleteThe caf of Ha'knanni is kosher, although it has a slight "zavis" because its basic feature, the right outside "gav" is round. The same applies to the caf of Kol, only that the "gav" of the caf is missing a small piece before the slight zavis of the moshav.
DeleteBoth cafs are definitly kosher.
The beis of Bechozek is also kosher, its akev is well protruding right, so that overrides the exact shape of the zavis [being a bit rounded] since that is far right of the guf ha'ois.
BTW in the beis the "top right correctly squared" is Not Ikar. The ikar is square/zavis/akev at bottom.
DeleteThis stand is accepted by all acharonim. See Mishnat Sofrim - beis.
I'd agree that the chafs are kosher and, as always, if can be improved, should be.
ReplyDeleteAs long as a letter was deemed kosher by an appropriate authority then there is no longer a shaila (assuming there was one in the first place) so there is no obscuring taking place when fixing up the letter. Obviously, if the psak is that even after the tikkun the ksav is a lower level of kashrus than it now appears to be and this ksav based on price and/or appearance is expected to be a higher level and/or you know that the owner thought or desires the ksav to be a higher level than it is now then he must be informed.
We also fix letters determined by a posek to be kosher, even if there is no halachic gain so future examiners aren't troubled to find and ask the same shaila in future. This is not called obscuring.