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Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher
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We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Question to Yosef Chaim B
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Zvi
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Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
Hei- shorten regel (is this too long to be lechatchila after tikkun?)
ReplyDeleteReish- if we measure the regel based on the general ksav then it looks to be a kemaleh Yud (probably not long enough according to the MB).
According MB if a tinok recognizes the letter you may fix the length of the regel.
ReplyDeleteR' Moshe, Which shaila do you refer to?
ReplyDeletethe reish
DeleteThe psak I have is that it depends on the length of the regel. If it's a kemaleh os ketana it is kosher (not like the Yad Efraim and Kol Sofrim who require a tinok) and if not it is pasul. (Of course there's the machlokes what a KOK is - a kulmus or kulmus and a mashehu.
ReplyDeleteI haven't carefully measured but in this case it is likely a KOK (not likely according to the MB hence might be pasul according to him) based on the general ksav. Perhaps, since the KOK is based on the general ksav, there'd be basis according to those not choshesh for the YE in this case to ask a tinok?
The MB [32:40] is meikal that although there isn't a mlo ois ketana and the letter is passul, since the tinok recognizes the letter, it can be fixed in tefilin shlo ksidran.
ReplyDeleteI understand that this kula of the MB is correct according to his shita, not only in regard of the left regel of the hay, but in regard to the right regel as well.
I'm not aware of anyone understanding the MB that this applies applies to the right regel If so, a maleh os ketana is required and is otherwise pasul and irreparable. In this case, while I didn't measure, if measured according to the standard kulmus, it appears to be pasul and irreparable according to the MB, who requires a kulmus plus. However, others who only require a kulmus it appears to be kosher.
DeleteDo you have a mekor to apply this to the yerech? What about Menachos 29a?
ReplyDeleteSee Kesiva Tama and Yeriot Shlomo who are mechalek between the nekuda of the Hei and the yerech of the Hei (Reish, Dalet..)
yes, the later acharonim are mechalek, but I think that we should be more lenient (than their opinion). It will be a length for me to explain my position, and I am planning on doing so in my hebrew blog (in english it will consume to much ...)
ReplyDeleteBut in any way you hold in that regard, when we combine this svara, to those that say that MLOK is measured by standard width of the csav, and not by this reish which it's gag is an exception. It is pashut that you can fix the reish.
Kindly e-mail me a copy or a link at sofer@stam.net. In the meantime I hope to discuss it with Rav Friedlander.
ReplyDeleteNote that the 2 sources I quoted are present day poskim. Typically the Kesiva Tama quotes both tzadim but in this case he doesn't provide any mekoros to be mechalek. Are you aware of any Shutim or Poskei zmaneinu that are mechalek?
http://hebrewstam.blogspot.co.il/2014/05/blog-post_28.html
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