Last week I posted some thoughts in response to a public lecture given by Rabbi Reuvain Mendlowitz regarding Ksav Chabad (the Alter Rebbe's ksav). I felt he did not represent the issue fairly, and since I had received questions about it from a number of people I felt it made sense to write a general response. After I posted my response on this forum, Rabbi Mendlowitz reached out to me by email and we ended up having a respectful and productive email exchange regarding the relevant issues surrounding Ksav Chabad. His position is a lot clearer to me now, and I think he also took certain things on board that I clarified with him. The purpose of the Stam Forum (at least back in it's heyday before all the whats app groups took over) was to connect sofrim from around the world, to promote achdus and build bridges, as well as to offer support and advice. In that spirit, I felt I should write a follow up post, to clarify some of the issues and misconception...
if you make a mistake in the important lines ei names dates amounts, you may correct but you have to write on bottom :on line so and so i made an eraser and wrote this and this -witnesses must sign this as well.
ReplyDeleteBottom line with ksubos is not to make mechikos on names.
ReplyDeleteWell to phrase this a different way here are my curiousities:
ReplyDelete1) Are people Noheig to be more somekh on the printed ketubah
2) Are there always two copies of the ketubah?
3) What about the laws of Shtarim in Choshen Mishpat that says any mechika needs to be initialed by the sofer(While I doubt folks would mind if a sofer's initials are all over their loan agreement, I doubt that they would appreciate it on a Ketubah they want to hang on a wall).
R Shneur Kotler once officiated at a wedding with a Kesuba that was expensive, custom-made, beautiful and elaborate. Discovering a problem in the Ksav, he promptly tuned it over and wrote the entire Kesuba (by heart!) and had the Eidim sign. This way, they could hang it on the wall, because this Klaf now contained the real Kesuba (on the obverse) and it was "suitable for framing and displaying"!
ReplyDeletehow about typing up the ksuba with all the names dates etc, have the mesader kidushin ok it. print it on the center of the page you will be putting the art on, another possibility is you can print it on any paper you want you can make cut outs to make it look unique and paste it into your art piece. the only hidur of writing a ksuba is that you get everything in the same handwriting-printing with names in advance would be a bigger hidur.
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