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it is difficult to have a correct picture fron this scan. But I guess that the line is not over noticable. And if so - a shalas tinok and fix. If it is nikar to the eye that there is a gag to the right side - it is passul.
The Yerieat Shlomo writes: נמשך קו דק של דיו מגגה בחריץ השרטוט, יש להראותה לתינוק לפי ראות עיני המורה. ואין לפוסלה משום שאין שיעור לעובי האותיות וא''כ נעשתה כזי''ן.
In the footnote he writes: אע"פ שהקו דק ממש, ונראה שלא נעשתה כזי''ן, מ''מ כיון שיש ריעותה באות, יש להראותה לתינוק, וכשיקראנה לנכון, מותר למחוק הקו
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
it is difficult to have a correct picture fron this scan.
ReplyDeleteBut I guess that the line is not over noticable. And if so - a shalas tinok and fix. If it is nikar to the eye that there is a gag to the right side - it is passul.
It's dark enough to be a worry. I'm not sure if it's thick enough. It looks like a vov at first glance. I'll do a shailos tinok I guess
ReplyDeleteThe Yerieat Shlomo writes:
ReplyDeleteנמשך קו דק של דיו מגגה בחריץ השרטוט, יש להראותה לתינוק לפי ראות עיני המורה. ואין לפוסלה משום שאין שיעור לעובי האותיות וא''כ נעשתה כזי''ן.
In the footnote he writes:
אע"פ שהקו דק ממש, ונראה שלא נעשתה כזי''ן, מ''מ כיון שיש ריעותה באות, יש להראותה לתינוק, וכשיקראנה לנכון, מותר למחוק הקו
Thanks. Its fixed
ReplyDelete700 years ago that may have been a zayin but להלכה it might depend on the reading of a contemporary tinok.
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