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Klaff Tanning question:
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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I received this question via email. I am not really a klaf expert, I was wondering if anyone could answer this question: Dear Rabbi Gutnick, I am writing to you because a good friend of mine has put the idea into my head that the klaf in my tefillin were not really tanned and therefore are not kosher. He referred me to Megilla 19a re diftera. From the research that I have done so far, it seems that the klaf that is used today is tanned only with a lime wash. On all of the tanning websites I’ve seen so far, they say that the lime doesn’t accomplish tanning but only the removal of the hair and some other pre-tanning effects. Would you be able to explain to me or refer me to a website that explains how the tanning process that is used today takes the hide out of the category of diftera? Thank you very much.
The forum is back online...for reference and research purposes.
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
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ReplyDeleteולרווחא דמילתא הייתי שואל תינוק, ואחר שיקראנו לתקן עיגול הראש בהוספת דיו
Count me in.
ReplyDeleteI don't even see a Safek.
To me this looks like a kosher zayin, it has a real yetziah to the right as a result of the missing dio. Why is this not a zayin?
ReplyDeleteBecause to the first glance of the eye it looks like a vov. You only see the blita on the right after its magnified and studied closely. At worst it's a shailos tinok
DeletePS when you fix it you need to make sure you go from the regel up to the rosh. If you go in the other direction, you may make it worse during tikun
Deletecan you post a better image with a more straight on view?
ReplyDeleteשאלת תינוק
ReplyDeletelooks like a Mordichi/Sefer Yeryim zayin, wouldn't let it go even with a tinok
ReplyDeleteBecause you are looking at a high res magnified image much larger and more detailed than the real life image.
DeleteAcc to Rav Friedlander, the only posek I got a straight answer from, you can only judge from a high res enlarged image on computer if you know how to translate it in your minds eye as to how it would look in real life
Exactly! When I receive shailas by e-mail I often downsize the image to as close to original size since enhanced sizes often change the appearance for better or worse. Sometimes I tell the person that I can't judge without seeing the original size so give guidelines to help them decide based on looking at the original.
DeleteYes but original size won't be as clear as real life. You need to find the balance, it takes a lot of experience, including how to factor in if a picture is dark or light or blurry or crooked...
DeleteYes, I'm aware and when I feel that I can't judge from an image I let the person know and in some cases may ask for a better image or different angle. I'm no Rav Friedlander but do feel confident in answering most shailos e-mailed to me.
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