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Zvi
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Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
I think the second letter looks like a ן.
ReplyDeleteמותר לתקן
ReplyDeleteוכן נראה דעת המקדש מעט, שמותר לתקנו. אבל כל זמן שלא תיקנו אין להכשיר
DeleteSORRY ,I reviewed mikdash me-at and he is machmir by nun sofit.
ReplyDeleteFood for thought:
וימת תרח בחרן has a nun hafucha
we may understand that it is a kosher letter but the foot is not centered as regular nun but comes out of left side.or we may understand that if not for the kabula this would be posul letter.
אתה צודק. משמעות המקדש מעט דפסול ולא מהני תיקון בראש הפוך
Deleteומ"מ נראה לי נכון לדינא דמהני תיקון, ואין כאן שינוי גמור בצורתה
SORRY ,I reviewed mikdash me-at and he is machmir by nun sofit.
ReplyDeleteFood for thought:
וימת תרח בחרן has a nun hafucha
we may understand that it is a kosher letter but the foot is not centered as regular nun but comes out of left side.or we may understand that if not for the kabula this would be posul letter.
Not sure what you mean. A nun hafucha is added to the words. It's not a letter at all. It's a symbol (like to nekuda on top of some Osiyos) in the shape of a nun hafucha.
Deletethere are many minhagim how to make the nun hafucha see the recent קובץ חצי גברים for examples
Deleteאדה"ז פוסק בשו"ע סימן ל"ו סעיף א
ReplyDelete"אבל אם שינה לא פסל אלא א"כ הפסיד צורת האות לגמרי"
אולם הרב משה ויינר כאן פוסק:
אין כאן שינוי גמור בצורתה, כל זמן שלא תיקנו אין להכשיר! ומ"מ נראה לי נכון לדינא דמהני תיקון
אינני יודע מה דעת שו"ע אדמה"ז בשאלה זו - של נו"ן פשוטה
ReplyDeleteהשאלה שלפנינו תלויה בשתי בעיות שדנו האחרונים
א. מה דין נו"ן פשוטה שראשה כוי"ו ולא כזיי"ן
ב. מה דין נו"ן אם ראשה הפוך
לכן לדעתי בשתי מקרים הללו להחמיר שלא להכשיר כמו שהו, אבל להתיר לתקנן שלא כסדרן, ועל דרך שיטת הצמח צדק בנוגע לכ"ף פשוטה מרובעת, ובדין יוד"י האל"ף שנדבקו יותר מדי לגג
There is a slight rosh on the left side. The question is whether this is sufficient to save it from appearing like a nun hafuch, which is pasul according to the MM. The taller, albeit narrow, head on the left side makes it stand out more, which may be a hatzala.
ReplyDeleteclarification- makes in stand out more meaning, makes the left side of the head more noticeable than if it would have been the same height as the right side
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