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Klaff Tanning question:
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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I received this question via email. I am not really a klaf expert, I was wondering if anyone could answer this question: Dear Rabbi Gutnick, I am writing to you because a good friend of mine has put the idea into my head that the klaf in my tefillin were not really tanned and therefore are not kosher. He referred me to Megilla 19a re diftera. From the research that I have done so far, it seems that the klaf that is used today is tanned only with a lime wash. On all of the tanning websites I’ve seen so far, they say that the lime doesn’t accomplish tanning but only the removal of the hair and some other pre-tanning effects. Would you be able to explain to me or refer me to a website that explains how the tanning process that is used today takes the hide out of the category of diftera? Thank you very much.
The forum is back online...for reference and research purposes.
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
I think the second letter looks like a ן.
ReplyDeleteמותר לתקן
ReplyDeleteוכן נראה דעת המקדש מעט, שמותר לתקנו. אבל כל זמן שלא תיקנו אין להכשיר
DeleteSORRY ,I reviewed mikdash me-at and he is machmir by nun sofit.
ReplyDeleteFood for thought:
וימת תרח בחרן has a nun hafucha
we may understand that it is a kosher letter but the foot is not centered as regular nun but comes out of left side.or we may understand that if not for the kabula this would be posul letter.
אתה צודק. משמעות המקדש מעט דפסול ולא מהני תיקון בראש הפוך
Deleteומ"מ נראה לי נכון לדינא דמהני תיקון, ואין כאן שינוי גמור בצורתה
SORRY ,I reviewed mikdash me-at and he is machmir by nun sofit.
ReplyDeleteFood for thought:
וימת תרח בחרן has a nun hafucha
we may understand that it is a kosher letter but the foot is not centered as regular nun but comes out of left side.or we may understand that if not for the kabula this would be posul letter.
Not sure what you mean. A nun hafucha is added to the words. It's not a letter at all. It's a symbol (like to nekuda on top of some Osiyos) in the shape of a nun hafucha.
Deletethere are many minhagim how to make the nun hafucha see the recent קובץ חצי גברים for examples
Deleteאדה"ז פוסק בשו"ע סימן ל"ו סעיף א
ReplyDelete"אבל אם שינה לא פסל אלא א"כ הפסיד צורת האות לגמרי"
אולם הרב משה ויינר כאן פוסק:
אין כאן שינוי גמור בצורתה, כל זמן שלא תיקנו אין להכשיר! ומ"מ נראה לי נכון לדינא דמהני תיקון
אינני יודע מה דעת שו"ע אדמה"ז בשאלה זו - של נו"ן פשוטה
ReplyDeleteהשאלה שלפנינו תלויה בשתי בעיות שדנו האחרונים
א. מה דין נו"ן פשוטה שראשה כוי"ו ולא כזיי"ן
ב. מה דין נו"ן אם ראשה הפוך
לכן לדעתי בשתי מקרים הללו להחמיר שלא להכשיר כמו שהו, אבל להתיר לתקנן שלא כסדרן, ועל דרך שיטת הצמח צדק בנוגע לכ"ף פשוטה מרובעת, ובדין יוד"י האל"ף שנדבקו יותר מדי לגג
There is a slight rosh on the left side. The question is whether this is sufficient to save it from appearing like a nun hafuch, which is pasul according to the MM. The taller, albeit narrow, head on the left side makes it stand out more, which may be a hatzala.
ReplyDeleteclarification- makes in stand out more meaning, makes the left side of the head more noticeable than if it would have been the same height as the right side
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