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Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher
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Zvi
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We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
The forum is back online...for reference and research purposes.
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
This is called "Taz" - meaning that there is a Parsha Stuma -combining the 2 spaces for a 9 yudim space.
ReplyDeleteMany Ashkenazim follow the Taz, and do so.
It's very tight. Perhaps R' Zev is concerned it's too tight. Less than 9 yudin combined is possel even according to those who interpret the Taz the way R' Moshe explains above (Mishnah Brurah)...
ReplyDeleteThey're isn't 9 yudin.
ReplyDeleteThis doesn't pass even according to taz.
Perhaps cutting the last parsha off so that it's a separate piece can make these kosher.
I don't know because I never looked into what the poskim say about such a solution.
לעניות דעתי זה לא עוזר להכשיר בשל יד
DeleteI haven't looked into it,
DeleteBut R' Moshe please explain why you think it's not a solution.
if you judge the end of the parsha by rov shuros there is almost nothing after shema
ReplyDeleteExtend the Dalet and tav of shma. Then thicken the nun of בין, and it'll be fine.
ReplyDeleteI would fix it by simply adding to the letters of the end of the lines. The only one you can't really add much to is the yud from anochi. Be careful with the chof pshutah, don't thicken the gug too much unless you are thickening the regel too (and lengthening it a fraction). But even without the yud and chof pshutah you would still have majority of lines longer. (still might be kedai to widen the yud and chof pshutah marginally so there is no space of three yudin at end of their line.) It might look a bit ugly after tikkun but at least it will be kosher. You can even add a drop to the beginning of each line of the parsha vi"s (just when thickening the vovs, start at the bottom and angle up to the right to widen, don't start at the top or you will potentially create a zayin). I can see this parsha being saved easily. If anyone wants I am happy to print it out, make the corrections, and there will easily be 9 to 10 yudin between them...
ReplyDeleteR' Eli,
DeleteCan you please do that?
I'd love to see it cuz I'm having difficulty imagining it.
Tx!
R' Eli,
DeleteCan you please do that?
I'd love to see it cuz I'm having difficulty imagining it.
Tx!
IY"H I'll try and print out the image and do it in the coming days. I'll upload it as a new post...
DeleteIY"H I'll try and print out the image and do it in the coming days. I'll upload it as a new post...
DeleteAri, as my kids say, that was a "jinx". We were both writing the same idea at the same time. I would think though that if you lengthen the nun, you would do it in the same way as the the cof pshutah i.e. only a fraction of the gug before thickening the regel and then add a bit more to the guy (so as to ensure you don't turn it into a chof pshutah). And, as in all these types of tikkunim, watch out for Panim Chadshos...
ReplyDeleteWhat does this say about the sofer's Chezkas Kashrus?
ReplyDeleteWhat does this say about the sofer's Chezkas Kashrus?
ReplyDeleteI can see how the Sofer may have mistaken to think there is 9 yudin.
DeleteI'm just not sure why he needed to be "mehader";)