Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
Sorry, my autocorrect put shkoyach instead of shkiyah, I've changed it now
ReplyDeleteIf within the shiur hameakev you need to suggest they put them on again and out of the shiur it's worthwhile suggesting to anyone who wants to be yotzeh lechatchila.
ReplyDeleteFor both my benefit as well as others who may read this, what is the shiur hameakev you refer to?
DeleteThe shiur hameakev is what is wrapped around the arm till the end of the finger three times in the most stretched out way. On the shel rosh which drapes (from the right side) till the navel and from the left side which drapes till the chest.
ReplyDeleteSee Shulchan Aruch HaRav 33:6.
If I remember correctly you may stretch the retzua and do the three crichos however if he wrapped his arm , and the three crichos were done with posul retzuos ,he should put on again.
DeleteThe shiur hameakev for the shel rosh is the part that goes around the head, the knot plus 2 tefachim.
ReplyDeleteWhile bedieved the shel yad should be long enough to wrap around the arm and 3x around the finger, if, bshaas hadchak, one only has enough to wrap around the arm and tuck it in to hold in place or, lo aleinu, one does not have a lower arm, he fulfills the mitzvah. Wouldn't this then be the shiur hameakev?
Thank you. at any rate, most white marks are around or near the kesher. So in such a case, I should tell the customer to put on again, assuming it is the same day and still before shkiyah
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