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Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher
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Zvi
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We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Question to Yosef Chaim B
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Zvi
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Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
The problem with the above "HEH" is that it arises in us the doubt whether it's a letter "BET." The initial gut reaction when seeing it, is to conclude that this "HEH" has lost its shape and want to invalidate it. However, halakha is clear. It is precisely in a case of such doubt that we must show it to a TINOK.
ReplyDeleteIf this was acceptable as a Hei than the Poskim would have told us clearly - in a case where the regel of the hei was written in the middle of the letter rather than the end - to simply stretch the regel all the way till the end.
ReplyDeleteObviously, that is NOT a solution. Which would seem to imply that R' Moshe is correct in rendering this possul.
As such there is no tikkun either. For the only tikkun available is to scrape and whenever there is a psul in the guf ha'os - scraping would be considered Chak tochos.
Please take a look at sefer Safekot HaSofer - Letter Heh #21
ReplyDeleteI humbly disagree with the comparison to the case being dealt with in Sfeikas Hasofer. He is not speaking of a case such as this where it is so long.
DeleteAs per the above post from YY I reviewed the m"b who writes that if the nekuda is in middle gag should be scratched however if it is at end of line it should be left as is. Nekuda should not be stretched.
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