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I'm not so certain a child was to be asked. The Reish is correctly proportioned and the oversized Shins surrounding it are confusing to a child. I've discussed this shailah in the past with 2 morei horaah and one said it's fine and the other suggested (but didn't require) a tinok. Also, the Shin next to it is oversized, which could confuse the tinok.
The Reish in comparison to the normal size letters is a little smaller. However, next to the large Shins it looks much smaller. Cover the 2 Shins surrounding it, which gives a false impression when looking at the somewhat small Reish and it looks like a Reish, besides having the correct proportions of a Reish.
בגלל שלי היה נוטה יותר שהוא רי"ש, והתקשיתי לקבל שהתינוק יקראנו יו"ד. וגם חשדתי שהתינוק הראשון לא הראו לו יודין ורישין תחילה כראוי, במקרה כזה אני נוהג לשאול כמה תינוקות כדי לילך אחר הרוב
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
Why was more than one child asked?
ReplyDeleteI'm not so certain a child was to be asked. The Reish is correctly proportioned and the oversized Shins surrounding it are confusing to a child. I've discussed this shailah in the past with 2 morei horaah and one said it's fine and the other suggested (but didn't require) a tinok. Also, the Shin next to it is oversized, which could confuse the tinok.
Ignore the last sentence. I forgot to delete it after I added it above.
Deleteהרי זה דומה לדין של ד' קטנה אשר כתבו הראשונים שדינה שאלת תינוק
ReplyDeleteומכאן הוכיחו האחרונים שאין צריך לכסות מלפניו, כדי שיראה בערך שאר הכתב
The Reish in comparison to the normal size letters is a little smaller. However, next to the large Shins it looks much smaller. Cover the 2 Shins surrounding it, which gives a false impression when looking at the somewhat small Reish and it looks like a Reish, besides having the correct proportions of a Reish.
ReplyDeleteWhy was more than 1 tinok asked?
בגלל שלי היה נוטה יותר שהוא רי"ש, והתקשיתי לקבל שהתינוק יקראנו יו"ד. וגם חשדתי שהתינוק הראשון לא הראו לו יודין ורישין תחילה כראוי,
ReplyDeleteבמקרה כזה אני נוהג לשאול כמה תינוקות כדי לילך אחר הרוב