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I'm not so certain a child was to be asked. The Reish is correctly proportioned and the oversized Shins surrounding it are confusing to a child. I've discussed this shailah in the past with 2 morei horaah and one said it's fine and the other suggested (but didn't require) a tinok. Also, the Shin next to it is oversized, which could confuse the tinok.
The Reish in comparison to the normal size letters is a little smaller. However, next to the large Shins it looks much smaller. Cover the 2 Shins surrounding it, which gives a false impression when looking at the somewhat small Reish and it looks like a Reish, besides having the correct proportions of a Reish.
בגלל שלי היה נוטה יותר שהוא רי"ש, והתקשיתי לקבל שהתינוק יקראנו יו"ד. וגם חשדתי שהתינוק הראשון לא הראו לו יודין ורישין תחילה כראוי, במקרה כזה אני נוהג לשאול כמה תינוקות כדי לילך אחר הרוב
Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Why was more than one child asked?
ReplyDeleteI'm not so certain a child was to be asked. The Reish is correctly proportioned and the oversized Shins surrounding it are confusing to a child. I've discussed this shailah in the past with 2 morei horaah and one said it's fine and the other suggested (but didn't require) a tinok. Also, the Shin next to it is oversized, which could confuse the tinok.
Ignore the last sentence. I forgot to delete it after I added it above.
Deleteהרי זה דומה לדין של ד' קטנה אשר כתבו הראשונים שדינה שאלת תינוק
ReplyDeleteומכאן הוכיחו האחרונים שאין צריך לכסות מלפניו, כדי שיראה בערך שאר הכתב
The Reish in comparison to the normal size letters is a little smaller. However, next to the large Shins it looks much smaller. Cover the 2 Shins surrounding it, which gives a false impression when looking at the somewhat small Reish and it looks like a Reish, besides having the correct proportions of a Reish.
ReplyDeleteWhy was more than 1 tinok asked?
בגלל שלי היה נוטה יותר שהוא רי"ש, והתקשיתי לקבל שהתינוק יקראנו יו"ד. וגם חשדתי שהתינוק הראשון לא הראו לו יודין ורישין תחילה כראוי,
ReplyDeleteבמקרה כזה אני נוהג לשאול כמה תינוקות כדי לילך אחר הרוב