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Klaff Tanning question:
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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I received this question via email. I am not really a klaf expert, I was wondering if anyone could answer this question: Dear Rabbi Gutnick, I am writing to you because a good friend of mine has put the idea into my head that the klaf in my tefillin were not really tanned and therefore are not kosher. He referred me to Megilla 19a re diftera. From the research that I have done so far, it seems that the klaf that is used today is tanned only with a lime wash. On all of the tanning websites I’ve seen so far, they say that the lime doesn’t accomplish tanning but only the removal of the hair and some other pre-tanning effects. Would you be able to explain to me or refer me to a website that explains how the tanning process that is used today takes the hide out of the category of diftera? Thank you very much.
The forum is back online...for reference and research purposes.
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Rabbi Eli Gutnick
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Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
Isn't it the same as the previous mentioned Vov. That clear answer or opinion, cannot be given from a picture?
ReplyDeleteIf you would use it as a ג without a doubt, then it's not a נ.
If it's definitely not a ג, then it's a Kosher נ.
And if it's a doubt, then don't we ask a תינוק דלא חכם ולא טיפש?
I recall R' Eli posted b'shem Mv"R Harav Friedlander zt"l regarding paskening based on images. Maybe he can repost it or provide the link to it? There are some morei horaah today who're regularly paskening based on images. While not ideal, when they feel then need to see the shaila in person they will say so.
ReplyDeleteIn all likelihood, when viewed in its actual size a moreh horaah will machshir. Please share with us the psak you receive and from whom.
"...However he said shailos which are size sensitive such as a small blita coming out of the back of a chof which may look more like a beis when enlarged, can really only judge accurately from the real thing as it appears in real life. (Real life sized images on a computer screen always comes out less clear than the real life original and once you blow it up its already altered). Also he said nifsakim and nekavim would be virtually impossible to judge correctly from such images".
DeleteBasic guidlines for this shaila:
ReplyDeleteIf its a pegima meaning that thete is no foot coming down below the rest of the moishev and it is very small as seems the case in this picture it is kosher.
If a little foot sticks down than harav MS Klien is very machmir where Rav Friedlander and others go according to mabat rishon/first impression. If it looks like a nun its a nun