פסיעה לבר ארוכה - חשש קו"ף
נראה לי שהה"א נהפכה לצורת קו"ף מחמת אריכות הפסיעה לבר כלפי מטה, והיא נעשית כעין [ושיעור] ירך של קו"ף, והרי זו שינוי בעצם צורתה, והיא פסולה
דיוחנן - kosher rapidograph ink.... Experiences or comments pls
I recently tried this kosher ink for my rapidograph and I am extremely pleased with it. It does not clog the nib like other kosher rapidograph inks, and it's very dark and strong. It's at least as good as the Rotring commercial grade rapidograph inks (of course these can only be used with batch numbers that have been lab tested and approved kosher), and in addition you do not need to add a drop of regular Sta"m ink (as per the instruction of the Shevet Halevi, which is messy and time consuming). I was wondering if anyone else had an opinion or comments with regards to their experience with this ink...
well, shouldn't we show it to a tinok?
ReplyDeleteRav Moshe holds it's pasul and hence a tinok is not called for.
ReplyDeleteHow do you know? did you show this image to Rav Moshe and he told you? When I do a she'elas Tinok I take a piece of paper and cut a tiny square and then show the child random Hehs, Kufs, Hehs, all randomly and repeated and then i show him the letter and then hes already used to the style of the sofer. I would not call this Heh a Kuf, but it for sure needs a tikkun to be gorer the extra bit. I assure you that if such a Heh was used for a kuf like in Ukeshartom, it woulad also be a pasul kuf. Therefore a she'elas tinok is the solution to define the letter. Am I off on this ?
DeleteIts shem hashem so to be gorer (scrape) is an issue, even if you hold its kosher and consequently it would not be chok tochus it would still be a potential issue of mechikas hashem...
Delete"How do you know? did you show this image to Rav Moshe and he told you?"
DeleteRav Moshe Weiner is the one who posted the image together with his psak that it's pasul. Hence, as I wrote, since he paskened it's pasul, there is no place for a shailas tinok.
"I would not call this Heh a Kuf, but it for sure needs a tikkun to be gorer the extra bit. I assure you that if such a Heh was used for a kuf like in Ukeshartom, it woulad also be a pasul kuf. Therefore a she'elas tinok is the solution to define the letter. Am I off on this ?"
ReplyDeleteLet's leave the psak halachah to the appropriate authorities. Rav Moshe paskened it's pasul. This is a serious shailah and I'd hope a sofer or magia who found such a shailah would know to ask a moreh horaah who's an expert in Stam and not pasken on their own, such as to decide without consultation with an expert, to ask a tinok.
Even if this was kosher, which I'm not suggesting, as R. Eli mentions it's in a Shem. Hence, if one would improve the letter, the option would be to add a little to the right leg.
With regards to the procedure of asking a tinok. There's no need to make a window to test if the child can identify Heis or Kufs. Furthermore, when clarifying if he can identify the letters in question, we must ask random letters as well to ensure that we are not leading him. Finally, when the actual letter would be shown to the tinok, in the case of a Hei-Kuf shaila, at most the words on the line prior to the word that contains the shaila would be covered and some hold nothing is covered. The questionable Hei would not be shown to the tinok from within a "window" (surrounding letters covered).