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The second zayin is equaly pasul as the first. Its combination of being a backward nun, and the foot not centered well, totaly lost its tzura for a zayin. For better view enlarge.
I beleive Rabbi Weiner is right. Have a look at Mishnat Hasofer nun gimel at the lishkat hasofer. It talks about both a gag that is 3 kulmusim and the backwards nun.
I agree that it looks like a backwards nun which is a machlokes haposkim for itself. The Mharsha"g Responsa 1:8 was not worried about the letter being called a nun hafucha since we judge the letter only how it looks in its proper posture, he goes after shailos tinok in such a case. The Mishnas HaSofer Ois Zain Yalkut Hasofer is machriah when it is a small blita going to the right he is machshir with a tinok, as opposed when it is a nun mamash (which has a good moshav (which in this case was my doubt if this is a complete nun mamash with a big moshav). I understand that you posuled it out of combination of this together that it is not centered well. However the head of the second nun is definately less than 3 kolmosim wide (which would be a shinui tzura for itself).
Dear Readers and Members, The forum has been down for over 6 months because the domain name (www.stamforum.com) lapsed and it is no longer available to re purchase. Although this forum is now defunct (it has morphed into several whatsapp groups), I have had many requests to put it back online because it contains so much information (over 1,800 posts and thousands of comments in the discussions, on a wide range of topics related to STa"M). I have therefore put the forum back online at blogger, so the address is www.stamforum.blogspot.com. The forum lasted for a decade...not a bad effort! It was pretty popular back in the days before whatsapp and managed to receive over a million hits in it's short life. It was one of the only organised forums in the STa"M world and definitely the largest in it's heyday. I would like to thank all those who cobtributed over the years, particularly the early members who helped build it up. Thanking you all, Eli
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Certainly the right zain is shinui tzura but the left zain is not bidieved fixable? explain please.
ReplyDeleteThe second zayin is equaly pasul as the first. Its combination of being a backward nun, and the foot not centered well, totaly lost its tzura for a zayin.
ReplyDeleteFor better view enlarge.
I beleive Rabbi Weiner is right. Have a look at Mishnat Hasofer nun gimel at the lishkat hasofer. It talks about both a gag that is 3 kulmusim and the backwards nun.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it looks like a backwards nun which is a machlokes haposkim for itself. The Mharsha"g Responsa 1:8 was not worried about the letter being called a nun hafucha since we judge the letter only how it looks in its proper posture, he goes after shailos tinok in such a case.
ReplyDeleteThe Mishnas HaSofer Ois Zain Yalkut Hasofer is machriah when it is a small blita going to the right he is machshir with a tinok, as opposed when it is a nun mamash (which has a good moshav (which in this case was my doubt if this is a complete nun mamash with a big moshav).
I understand that you posuled it out of combination of this together that it is not centered well.
However the head of the second nun is definately less than 3 kolmosim wide (which would be a shinui tzura for itself).