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Of course not. But stylistic letters are not kosher, even though they're unmistakable to us in this generation. There are rules. a Yud with three tails may still look a Yud to us, but it's not a Yud, leHalacha.
see biur halacha page 88 מלא או"ק- ואם זה הכתב הוא מכתב בינוני לכאורה דאין מועיל אם כמלא או"ק הוא מכתב קטן דאל"כ אין שיעור לדבר אבל אם זה מכתב גדול נראה דבודאי מהני אם כמאו"ק הוא מכתב בינוני I have never understood this biur halacha , what is "small ksav and what is medium ksav and what is big ksav, big and small is a relative issue. I must thank Rabbi Nuson Oberlander for explaining this biur halacha to our situation- in a sefer torah where there is reg ksav and then we have gdolos and ktanos -the biur halacha holds that os ktana from the reg ksav is good for an os gdola however a short regel for reg ksav of that s"t cannot be measured with an os ktana (ktana and gedola mean the osios from mesora big and small)
A regel must be a minimum of a maleh os ketana, which is a kulmus, according to the more lenient opinion (unlike the M"B who says maleh os ketana it means a Yud - kulmus plus a bit) and this leg is even less than a kulmus of this ksav. Do we judge the length of the regel by this larger letter's kulmus or by the kulmus of the standard size letters? As R' Eli said, lemaaseh, it can be fixed however, the level of kashrus may be affected.
Sorry, I don't follow. The regel must be at least the height of the head (or the head and a bit according to the MB). The question in this case of a large letter is whether we require the height of the regel to be at least the height of the head of the same letter or must it be at least as tall as the height of the head of the normal letters.
Kosher
ReplyDeletePasul.
ReplyDeleteRegel shorter than the Gag. Maybe a Kosher Yud...
Its a machlokes when it's the big daled of echad. Lemaysa it's fixable
DeleteThe Tag is bigger than the Regel. Maybe a Lamed?
ReplyDeleteI can't believe anyone would mistake this for anything other than a dalet.
DeleteOf course not. But stylistic letters are not kosher, even though they're unmistakable to us in this generation. There are rules. a Yud with three tails may still look a Yud to us, but it's not a Yud, leHalacha.
ReplyDeletesee biur halacha page 88
ReplyDeleteמלא או"ק- ואם זה הכתב הוא מכתב בינוני לכאורה דאין מועיל אם כמלא או"ק הוא מכתב קטן דאל"כ אין שיעור לדבר אבל אם זה מכתב גדול נראה דבודאי מהני אם כמאו"ק הוא מכתב בינוני
I have never understood this biur halacha , what is "small ksav and what is medium ksav and what is big ksav, big and small is a relative issue.
I must thank Rabbi Nuson Oberlander for explaining this biur halacha to our situation- in a sefer torah where there is reg ksav and then we have gdolos and ktanos -the biur halacha holds that os ktana from the reg ksav is good for an os gdola however a short regel for reg ksav of that s"t cannot be measured with an os ktana (ktana and gedola mean the osios from mesora big and small)
A regel must be a minimum of a maleh os ketana, which is a kulmus, according to the more lenient opinion (unlike the M"B who says maleh os ketana it means a Yud - kulmus plus a bit) and this leg is even less than a kulmus of this ksav. Do we judge the length of the regel by this larger letter's kulmus or by the kulmus of the standard size letters? As R' Eli said, lemaaseh, it can be fixed however, the level of kashrus may be affected.
ReplyDeleteSo why not just consider the thickness of the regel as the עובי קולמוס and the gag as very tall?
ReplyDeleteSorry, I don't follow. The regel must be at least the height of the head (or the head and a bit according to the MB). The question in this case of a large letter is whether we require the height of the regel to be at least the height of the head of the same letter or must it be at least as tall as the height of the head of the normal letters.
ReplyDeleteMaybe one day we can discuss in person IYH.
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