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Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher
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Zvi
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We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Question to Yosef Chaim B
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Zvi
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Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
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ReplyDeleteThank you. Just for my own shimush, if the mem would have been more like a chof vov tzurah with a thin churtem, would it still be fixable?
ReplyDeleteA negia "sometimes makes it look like other letters but you do not have to use wild imagination, if you would ask a tinok to read it he would read as mem vov.
ReplyDeleteyes if it would have a very thin long bridge (which is done by many sofrim and nobody ever tells them that its wrong) and the negia between the next vov is close and thick it might be a shinui tzura
I agree. I think each case must be seen independently. So there might occur a shayla that will be passul, since it is equaly possible a mem zayin, or caf and ches.
DeleteThe sofer needs to learn how to write a chaf pesuta.
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ReplyDeletecorrect- the halacha writes to be careful not to make the ך too wide.
ReplyDeletesome sofrim decided that if too narrow it will be a vav similar to the sofrim that make short vavs worrying it will be a ן. imagining that it looks like another letter should be used only where chazal tell us to be worried,otherwise as long as it doesn't clearly look like another letter it is kosher