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Ink, Kosher vs. non-Kosher
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Zvi
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We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
Question to Yosef Chaim B
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Zvi
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Thank you for commenting on my ink article. In your comment you stated: "Many poskim disagree... Many rishonim have clearly stated the use of our ingredients." Would you please be kind enough to teach us (so I can include it in the article) which Poskim and what exactly and where did they say that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן that does not fail? We are not interested in biased פילפולים , or in those who said that דיו עשן is not being used because it fails easily or because it was not known how to make good quality דיו עשן. Nor are we interested in those who said to use עפצים וקנקנתום וגומא ואין לשנות when they discussed specifically the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink. We are interested to find out where and who (if any) said explicitly, based on sources, that the עפצים וקנקנתום type of ink is preferable over good quality דיו עשן , even when there is דיו עשן of good quality that does not ...
התמונה לא מספיק ברורה, אבל נראה בפשיטות שהוי"ו כשר. ומותר ורצוי לגרר הדיו הכחול
ReplyDeleteHi Eli,
ReplyDeleteNot only is there an ink mark there, but also after 1) ELECH, 2) ANASHAV, 3) SONeAV, 4)VAYELAKH. Obviously, someone marked all of the ends of PESSUKIM with blue ink, rendering this TORAH passul... for we admit of no extra marks on the scroll. There is no other choice, but to go and remove all of them.
Question, is the blue ink so engrained and absorbed into the KLAF, so that when you scrape, you are not able to remove it in its entirety?
For example, it appears from the picture that you have tried removing the mark after ELECH. However, there is still a small residue remaining. Ultimately, if the ink has been absorbed into the klaf, there is a point at which one can no longer proceed; for by scraping one risks making a hole onto the parchment.
Does anyone know of a good chemical process for removing blue ink? I have just tried a little alcohol, as well as acetone on a q-tip. Both seem to work by helping dissolve + lifting-up the ink. Any other ideas out there?