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I just spoke with Rav Friedlander on asking a tinok this shailah. He feels that since children are used to the printed Nun Sofit, in which the leg protrudes from the right corner that a tinok will likely call even a very long Zayin as a Zayin and therefore it's best for a moreh horaah to pasken and not ask a tinok. However, in my humble opinion, if the moreh horaah is besafek and one tests a child on a number of Zayins and Nun pshutas (mixed in with other random letters) in this ksav and he proves to know his letters then it would be best to ask him and if need be, an adult can be asked by covering the surrounding letters.
It is greatly preferable to use a tinok proficient in osiyos stam. Most kids proficient in osiyos stam will know the difference between a zayin and nun pshutah is the length of the regel only, as they are identical on the top....
I recently tried this kosher ink for my rapidograph and I am extremely pleased with it. It does not clog the nib like other kosher rapidograph inks, and it's very dark and strong. It's at least as good as the Rotring commercial grade rapidograph inks (of course these can only be used with batch numbers that have been lab tested and approved kosher), and in addition you do not need to add a drop of regular Sta"m ink (as per the instruction of the Shevet Halevi, which is messy and time consuming). I was wondering if anyone else had an opinion or comments with regards to their experience with this ink...
We all know that there is no ancient source that requires ink to be מן המותר בפיך . Possibly, as said here before, because in the olden days ink was always מן המותר בפיך and the question was never raised. It was probably self-evident. Nowadays, no decent Rav will approve an ink which is not מן המותר בפיך . Who was the first one to raise this question? Was it raised because of animal ingredients or because of non-kosher wine?
In today’s day and age, virtually every kosher product available to the consumer comes with a hechsher. By hechsher, I mean an official and recognised rabbinical body or agency that certifies the kashrus of a product, be it a food item or a religious article. Hechsherim play a vital role in providing consumer confidence, and something branded by a reputable kashrus agency will be considered more legitimate than a similar product that does not. The agency has rigid policies and protocols in place to ensure correct standards are met, and they are independent of the manufacturer so that there is no conflict of interest. As we have discussed on this forum previously, there is a distinct lack of official hechsherim on Sta”m products - Tefillin, Mezuzos and Sifrei Torah. Even the Vaad Mishmeres Sta”m, the oldest and most well- known rabbinic agency in the Sta”m world does not certify products. They test and ordain sofrim and magihim (examiners), offer a computer checking service (sp...
I just spoke with Rav Friedlander on asking a tinok this shailah. He feels that since children are used to the printed Nun Sofit, in which the leg protrudes from the right corner that a tinok will likely call even a very long Zayin as a Zayin and therefore it's best for a moreh horaah to pasken and not ask a tinok. However, in my humble opinion, if the moreh horaah is besafek and one tests a child on a number of Zayins and Nun pshutas (mixed in with other random letters) in this ksav and he proves to know his letters then it would be best to ask him and if need be, an adult can be asked by covering the surrounding letters.
ReplyDeleteIt is greatly preferable to use a tinok proficient in osiyos stam. Most kids proficient in osiyos stam will know the difference between a zayin and nun pshutah is the length of the regel only, as they are identical on the top....
DeleteWe agree.
ReplyDeleteMISHMERES STAM holds posul.
ReplyDeletei will post rabbi kleins tshuva that tinok doesnt help