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My opinion is that a tinok will NOT help since the difference of a beis and nun is that the nuns moshav is wide.I WOULD BE IT MACHSHIR FOR A NUN WITH A TINOK.Mikdash Me'at brings Levush, Pri Megadim and explains Darkei Moshe that nun with wide head is kosher if moshav is wider.
The Mikdash Maat Ois ב: sif katan 10 explains when in doubt if the beis could look like a nun because the gag is shorter than the moshav a tinok helps.
See also the Mishnas Sofrim Ois ב that explains when in doubt since the gag is very short we go after a tinok. In addition to this, the high thick ekev of the ב helps.
I asked R' Shammai Gross today. He said mitzad the short rosh and problem of looking like a Nun it's ok. In regards to looking like a proper beis he also said is ok -- no shailos tinnok.
I would say this: it doesn't look at all like a nun. But since the gag is short and a tinok may not recognize it as a beis, he might take a further step thinking its a messed-up nun. so both are correct!
See Shevat HaLevi Chelek 8 Siman 12 ois 6
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Not mamash the same. The Beis here seems somewhat 'worse'
I agree that a tinok should work. The thick high Ekev of (Ksav A. Rebbe) throws it off from assuming to take the status of a nun.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion is that a tinok will NOT help since the difference of a beis and nun is that the nuns moshav is wide.I WOULD BE IT MACHSHIR FOR A NUN WITH A TINOK.Mikdash Me'at brings Levush, Pri Megadim and explains Darkei Moshe that nun with wide head is kosher if moshav is wider.
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ReplyDeleteThe Mikdash Maat Ois ב: sif katan 10 explains when in doubt if the beis could look like a nun because the gag is shorter than the moshav a tinok helps.
ReplyDeleteSee also the Mishnas Sofrim Ois ב that explains when in doubt since the gag is very short we go after a tinok.
In addition to this, the high thick ekev of the ב helps.
I asked R' Shammai Gross today. He said mitzad the short rosh and problem of looking like a Nun it's ok. In regards to looking like a proper beis he also said is ok -- no shailos tinnok.
ReplyDeleteI think a tinok can be asked.
ReplyDeleteI think a tinok should be asked.
Mitzad it maybe being like a nun or if it's a proper beis?
ReplyDeleteI would say this: it doesn't look at all like a nun. But since the gag is short and a tinok may not recognize it as a beis, he might take a further step thinking its a messed-up nun. so both are correct!
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